Comments on: Disarm: The lesson of the Georgia fiasco http://www.smallgovtimes.com/2008/08/disarm-the-lesson-of-the-georgia-fiasco/ Your small government and Libertarian news source Sat, 20 Mar 2010 03:55:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: Dawgem http://www.smallgovtimes.com/2008/08/disarm-the-lesson-of-the-georgia-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-241 Dawgem Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:37:58 +0000 http://www.smallgovtimes.com/?p=445#comment-241 I'll have to do some research to get the facts but it is my understanding the Russians in S. Ossetia are transplants. They weren't initial residents of the area but they were encouraged to move there from the mother country. A tactic commonly employed by one nation to establish a presence and then lay claim to it. If this is true it sounds hauntingly familiar, re: our own southwestern states. I’ll have to do some research to get the facts but it is my understanding the Russians in S. Ossetia are transplants. They weren’t initial residents of the area but they were encouraged to move there from the mother country. A tactic commonly employed by one nation to establish a presence and then lay claim to it. If this is true it sounds hauntingly familiar, re: our own southwestern states.

]]> By: ash http://www.smallgovtimes.com/2008/08/disarm-the-lesson-of-the-georgia-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-34 ash Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:06:56 +0000 http://www.smallgovtimes.com/?p=445#comment-34 To Sarah Philips on August 23rd, 2008 9:23 pm How about reading History of US from 1605-1900... History is replete with instances of Human Brutality... just having faced it once does not give the right to any nation/race to give it back at a later point in history... Diplomacy and Peace is the only way out.... in this case it is the Nation (Georgia) that started it is at fault ... To Sarah Philips on August 23rd, 2008 9:23 pm

How about reading History of US from 1605-1900…

History is replete with instances of Human Brutality… just having faced it once does not give the right to any nation/race to give it back at a later point in history…
Diplomacy and Peace is the only way out…. in this case it is the Nation (Georgia) that started it is at fault …

]]> By: Sarah Philips http://www.smallgovtimes.com/2008/08/disarm-the-lesson-of-the-georgia-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-10 Sarah Philips Sun, 24 Aug 2008 04:23:39 +0000 http://www.smallgovtimes.com/?p=445#comment-10 What a shame you were not a Georgian in the Abkazian reigion in 1992. Such a shame you were not among those men, women and children these "poor, pitiful Abkazians" (allies and brethren of the "poor pitiful" S. Ossetians who were also involved in these actions perpetrated by their northern brethren) herded into a football field. A shame you were not among those Georgians in the early 1990's when the Abkazians, assisted and abetted by the Russians, ringed the field with machine guns and opened fire on them--taking 2 hours to complete the slaughter. Such a shame these wonderful people who are so deserving of the worlds pity did not do to you what they did to the nuns in front of the priests...that you were not the pregnant Georgian mother who was repeatedly raped and then disemboweled or the priest who had an eyeball ripped from a fellow Georgians corpse rubbed all over his face and mouth by these gentle and pitiful Abkazians before being forced to watch women who had been stripped naked and trapped in a well scream and cry while Abkazians threw corpses and then a grenade down on their heads. A shame that like the priest, they did not then kill you like the Abkazian woman who repeatedly sliced an elderly man tied to a tree and then tortured him by rubbing salt from a large tray into his wounds and continued to torture you like that for 4 hours before the gentle and delicate Abkazian woman finally killed you. Yes, indeed...that "belligerent little client state" should not have responded militarily to the shelling that was coming from the S. Ossetian paramilitary into the town of Gori. God knows we in the US would just let it go. After all...every bit of this was provoked by George Bush and has nothing at all to do with the ethnic cleansing of the Georgians in the early 1990's and the continuing, subsequent hostilities that endure to this day! No...indulge your addled American vanity and attribute this to the influence of your government like the fool that you are. God knows the world only revolves around America! And when you face such barbarism--how DARE you call on your allies from "belligerent little client states" to help you in your wars when you have NO INTENTIONS of reciprocating the loyalty! No you SELFISHLY demand your allies run to your aid and then turn your backs on them. And FYI...I AM AN AMERICAN from NE Alabama, but I give a damn about others in this world too because before I am ANYTHING I am a human being. My family has a strong military and political background. I do not like George Bush or Dick Cheney and their cronies. I would like to see them tried for war crimes and domestic crimes. But I will be damned if I will sit back and judge Georgia as you have without first apprising myself of the history of the region. What the S. Ossetians and Abkazians did to the people of Georgia is beyond barbaric. Their behaviour and brutality was inhuman...more like savage beasts! Why don't you go back are read up on just how brutal it was. If you do not cry, then you are a heartless beast yourself. A 5 year old child being ripped apart bare handed in front of his mother...And we expect Georgians to respond to these people with DIPLOMACY? To put down their weapons and trust these 'people' will not rabildy attack them? At first I wept for S. Ossetia AND Georgia. Then I studied the extended history of Georgia from before it was annexed by Alexander the great. Now my tears are for Georgia. How dare you call these people a "belligerent little client state"? You owe them a heartfelt apology and while you are at it how about you send them some food for their children? And you think that Russia is operating within its legitimate sphere? I suppose Russia is also operating within its sphere when it is flying violating US airspace flying sorties over Alaska (long before this conflict with Georgia). Oh, excuse me... I just noticed your pretty pink thong that says 'I <3 Putin'. Ah! Now I understand. What a shame you were not a Georgian in the Abkazian reigion in 1992. Such a shame you were not among those men, women and children these “poor, pitiful Abkazians” (allies and brethren of the “poor pitiful” S. Ossetians who were also involved in these actions perpetrated by their northern brethren) herded into a football field. A shame you were not among those Georgians in the early 1990’s when the Abkazians, assisted and abetted by the Russians, ringed the field with machine guns and opened fire on them–taking 2 hours to complete the slaughter.

Such a shame these wonderful people who are so deserving of the worlds pity did not do to you what they did to the nuns in front of the priests…that you were not the pregnant Georgian mother who was repeatedly raped and then disemboweled or the priest who had an eyeball ripped from a fellow Georgians corpse rubbed all over his face and mouth by these gentle and pitiful Abkazians before being forced to watch women who had been stripped naked and trapped in a well scream and cry while Abkazians threw corpses and then a grenade down on their heads.

A shame that like the priest, they did not then kill you like the Abkazian woman who repeatedly sliced an elderly man tied to a tree and then tortured him by rubbing salt from a large tray into his wounds and continued to torture you like that for 4 hours before the gentle and delicate Abkazian woman finally killed you.

Yes, indeed…that “belligerent little client state” should not have responded militarily to the shelling that was coming from the S. Ossetian paramilitary into the town of Gori. God knows we in the US would just let it go. After all…every bit of this was provoked by George Bush and has nothing at all to do with the ethnic cleansing of the Georgians in the early 1990’s and the continuing, subsequent hostilities that endure to this day!

No…indulge your addled American vanity and attribute this to the influence of your government like the fool that you are. God knows the world only revolves around America!

And when you face such barbarism–how DARE you call on your allies from “belligerent little client states” to help you in your wars when you have NO INTENTIONS of reciprocating the loyalty!

No you SELFISHLY demand your allies run to your aid and then turn your backs on them.

And FYI…I AM AN AMERICAN from NE Alabama, but I give a damn about others in this world too because before I am ANYTHING I am a human being. My family has a strong military and political background.

I do not like George Bush or Dick Cheney and their cronies. I would like to see them tried for war crimes and domestic crimes. But I will be damned if I will sit back and judge Georgia as you have without first apprising myself of the history of the region.

What the S. Ossetians and Abkazians did to the people of Georgia is beyond barbaric. Their behaviour and brutality was inhuman…more like savage beasts! Why don’t you go back are read up on just how brutal it was. If you do not cry, then you are a heartless beast yourself. A 5 year old child being ripped apart bare handed in front of his mother…And we expect Georgians to respond to these people with DIPLOMACY? To put down their weapons and trust these ‘people’ will not rabildy attack them?

At first I wept for S. Ossetia AND Georgia. Then I studied the extended history of Georgia from before it was annexed by Alexander the great. Now my tears are for Georgia. How dare you call these people a “belligerent little client state”? You owe them a heartfelt apology and while you are at it how about you send them some food for their children?

And you think that Russia is operating within its legitimate sphere? I suppose Russia is also operating within its sphere when it is flying violating US airspace flying sorties over Alaska (long before this conflict with Georgia). Oh, excuse me… I just noticed your pretty pink thong that says ‘I <3 Putin’. Ah! Now I understand.

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