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#3 - From Scott M on 2007-10-24
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There will ALWAYS be some excuse to continue wars. We are not "fighting back" in Iraq against 9/11. We are nation building, while Osama gets to run around and make videos to scare up some votes.

Do you, truly, honestly, believe that we are fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them over here? Do you really believe that with our southern border WIDE open that they couldn't spare a few to light of an American city? Have we actually held them back in Iraq (assuming they are even there, which they are not.)

See.. that's the problem. We have people sitting on their couches listening to propaganda from BIASED sources and think they understand better than a congressman of 30 years. You don't say you don't agree with him, you say he is 'wrong.' As if somehow, you, are so much smarter and privy to intelligence than he (or the CIA for that matter) is.

Honestly. This whole "I think Ron Paul is nuts about foreign policy" crap is getting tired. We don't believe you anymore. America doesn't believe you anymore. Not with stupid, ignorant arguments that you continue to make, even after it is shown to you over and over and over. The only reason facts refuse to take hold with you is because you know what you say are lies. You LIKE big government, and you believe the answer to ANY problem is to throw more money at it. The GOP has become the deferred-payment plan party. You are only 1 notch away from socialists in most Americans minds.

It will be interesting (but predictable) to see what people like you have to say when we are attacked again a la blowback. What will you say, to those you had been telling that we are fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them over here? What will you say to those that you have been telling the government will protect them? Who will you blame (as far as I know, NOONE was disciplined for failing to protect us on 9/11.)

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#2 - From Tony on 2007-10-22
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The War on Terror is an undefined and open ended commitment with no measurement device for success or failure but is becoming the single largest sucking vortex on the American Taxpayer - both personal and corporate levels of taxation.

Yes, the United States was attacked on September 11, 2001. But by whom and why? This is the most distorted facet of the War on Terror.

The U.S. has been intervening with Middle East affairs since 1947 and not just diplomatically. From funding both sides of conflicts to assassination attempts to removing dictators that we supported the U.S. has been violating our own Constitution for nearly 60 years.

Ron Paul talks about "Blowback", which is basically our comeuppance for an arrogant and cavalier failed foreign policy of not seeing our obligations to the end. We switch horses in the middle of the race constantly in the Middle East.

Islamic radicals/fascists are indeed real...we created them and now they are in their adolescent phase of rebelling against their father.

We need to look in the mirror before we start chasing rock throwers and pipe-bombers around the world with the most advanced and efficient soldiers the world has ever known.

Why do we constantly allow mission-creep to permeate our military? From soldiers to lollipop-hander-outers.

How, can we allow politicians that can't protect our own borders to protect a border almost a half-of-a-globe away?
We don't believe politicians (Republicans in this case) about all the other issues; why do we all of the sudden give them a free pass on the War on Terror and our Foreign Policy?

Respectfully submitted.

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#1 - From ripnbang on 2007-10-21
Steve,

Yes, smaller government is a conservative principle, and used to be espoused by those who call themselves Republicans. Yes, the Repubs have swollen the size of government and increased their social programs, much to the chagrin of true, blue conservatives. However, we were attacked on Sept. 11th, 2001. We did not seek to bring unprovoked battle to Afghanistan and later Iraq, but chose to respond to keep the battle there and not here. The reason why people applaud Ron Paul on all points with the exception of the War on Terror is because he is dead wrong on that issue. He takes his near Libertarian positions(which much of which I agree with) too far and fails to recognize (and looks very foolish, almost to the point of ridiculous) the dynamics of the WOT. I agree that we should not use our fantastic military on silly expeditions with no National Security threat (ie, Somalia and Bosnia), however, when attacked, we need to respond forcefully and quickly, and remain until the threat is eliminated, even if it takes years and billions of dollars. What good would it be to ignore the WOT and have more attacks on our home soil? Ron Paul's ideas reverberate with many consevatives, especially those of us who understand what the Constitution really says, but the WOT is not just "socialist foreign policy", but a defining moment in our existence. Our Constitution would be useless if we allow ourselves to be overrun with radical muslim ideology.

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